#Trogsoft
Welcome to one of these chat type things. We do these every week on Sunday at 10PM on irc.afternet.org on the #trogsoft channel. Feel free to join in. We thought we'd include this one for your reading pleasure, since the ones in Issue 2 got nice comments. Anyway, the people who took part in this one...
Troggy: Me, Neil. The Editor-type-person
Frank: Frank Mathieson. He quit part of the way through though.
Meash: Peter Measham. He's always here
Mouseomatic: Drew Green, our newest recruit to WOA
Phil: Phil Ellis, our production editor
Anyway, on with the show
<Troggy> Well, only took 8 attempts to connect :)
<Frank> hi troggy
<Meash> only 8 ???
<Troggy> yep
<Troggy> Usually only takes me 3 or 4
<Troggy> I was being sarcastic then
<mouseomatic> we knew
<Troggy> :)
<Troggy> I can sometimes do it in the first attempt :)
<mouseomatic> so what's the amigaguide version like? (not wanting to change the subject, or anything)
<Troggy> Oh, please do change the subject :)
<Meash> :)
<mouseomatic> k
<Troggy> The AmigaGuide version consists of lots of links with a few notes after them. It's basically the same as before, just with a hypertext file linking all the external files together
<Phil> I told you to do it in HTMl
<Troggy> that's your job isn't it?
<mouseomatic> did you try Heddley?
<Troggy> If I did it, you'd be redundant Phil :)
<Phil> For general release I mean
<Troggy> Well, a few people in the survey don't want a downloadable HTML version. Someone's working on a custom GUI for me at the moment
<mouseomatic> me! me!
<Troggy> And mouseomatic here is doing a DMC version, which is a possibility
<Troggy> :)
<mouseomatic> me! me!
<Troggy> Oh., I didn't send that to you did I phil?
<mouseomatic> meeeee!
<Phil> what?
<Troggy> a huge DMS archive
<mouseomatic> well, I can't help that
<Troggy> of a possible new look for WOA
<Troggy> I know you can't help it
<Troggy> I'll send you it now if you like
<Phil> No, but with my new Hypercom3+ it would have downloaded in a flash :-))))
<Phil> NO!
<Troggy> :)
<Troggy> no, you don't want me to send
<mouseomatic> can't you send files over IRC?
<Phil> Do I need to see it?
<Troggy> no, but you might like to comment on it
<Phil> How big?
* mouseomatic sobs quietly in a corner
<Troggy> It's about 460K I think
<Phil> No problem
<Troggy> send?
<Phil> Yes
<Troggy> cheer up mouseomatic :)
<Troggy> Email or IRC?
<mouseomatic> <sniff>
<Phil> IRC
<Troggy> right, lets see if this awful new version of mIRC can send things properly then...
<mouseomatic> what? you're on a peecee?
<Phil> Hey I just downloaded that for a mates PC
<mouseomatic> I'm (unfortunately) using one of those s**t machines too
<mouseomatic> gosh. We all like amigas (i hope ;) but we're all using peecees. hmm
<Phil> Are Joe and I the only ones who actually use Amigas?
<Troggy> yeah. The reason I didn't reply then when you originally asked was because I had the DCC send window open, and as we know, a child window of a program must be closed before you can use the parent window :(
<Frank> I do
<Troggy> Yep, you Frank and Joe are the only ones
<Phil> :-(
<mouseomatic> I use it, but it hasn't got internet access.
<Troggy> Start up the bar dood, I'm hungry!
<Troggy> :)
* Phil has told Kryten to open the bar...Type #Menu to get the menu, and # followed by the snack you want, to get it - |DWaRFMeNU|
<mouseomatic> but #menu won't work...
<Troggy> #menu
<mouseomatic> d'oh! ;-)
<Meash> #menu
<mouseomatic> #menu
<Phil> Be gentle! I'm still downloading the DMS
<Troggy> oh, yeah. Sorry
<mouseomatic> what is dwarfmenu when its all there?
* Phil hands Meash AN ICE COOL CAN OF COKE.
* Phil hands Troggy AN ICE COOL CAN OF COKE.
<Troggy> Ahhh.... much better :)
<mouseomatic> #BurgerKing A Whopper and fires.
<Phil> Phil hands Phil an ice cold can of Fosters :-)
<mouseomatic> (apparently)
<Meash> hehe
<Troggy> :)
<mouseomatic> #sprout_soup
* Phil hands mouseomatic A GRASSY GREEN BOWL OF HOT SPROUT SOUP.
<Troggy> :)
<mouseomatic> mmm
<Phil> The DwarfX scripts don't get very good press
<Meash> why ?
<mouseomatic> #Space_weavel
* Phil hands mouseomatic A PLATE OF SPICEY KING PRAWN [WELL SPACE WEAVEL ACTUALLY BUT HE WONT NOTICE].
<Troggy> Mr Murfin isn't getting very good comments on the afb at the moment is he?
<Phil> That's what I mean
<Troggy> yeah. Dunno why, he seems pretty cool from the conversations I've had with him
<Meash> oh well
<Phil> I know there are a lot of destructive scripts but it's the users not the programmer that cause problems
<mouseomatic> Here, troggy - you know that uninstaller program... how?
<Troggy> yes
<Troggy> how what?
<mouseomatic> well.... how?
<mouseomatic> how.... does it work, perhaps.
<Troggy> by deleting stuff :) or do you want it more specific than that?
<Phil> Oh yes, where can I find ASCI art, and is it any good?
<mouseomatic> yes pls
<Troggy> Phil: I don't have a clue
<mouseomatic> phil: there was a webpage with a program that lets you draw in ASCII
<Troggy> mouseomatic: It usues a script that people have to create when their program is installed.
<Frank> cya folks
<Phil> I thought it was a trogsoft product.
<Troggy> byeee :)
<Phil> CY Frank
<mouseomatic> buh bye
*** Frank has quit IRC
<Troggy> What, ASCII Art Studio?
<mouseomatic> possibly...
<Phil> I can't remeber the name
<Troggy> That's a Mantasoft program. http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk
<mouseomatic> its on a site along with James Bond
<Phil> I fancy setting up a BBS
<mouseomatic> yes... mantasoft.
<Phil> Hey, who did that to my browser
<Troggy> What?
<mouseomatic> ???
<Phil> It went to Mantasoft all by itself
* mouseomatic scratches his ear, making a pleasant 'skritch skritch' sound
<Troggy> :)
<Phil> Only AMIGA makes it possible :-)
<Troggy> How did it do that then? Are you using AmIRC3? Maybe it nice new features that do that when someone mentions a URL :)
<mouseomatic> here, lets try another one....
<mouseomatic> http://www.miggy.tsx.org
<mouseomatic> heh heh
<mouseomatic> ;-)
<Phil> No Ive got ". something
<Troggy> This could be a severe disadvantage to you Phil if that's what it does :)
<Phil> mousemattic is resposible
<Troggy> http://web.ukonline.co.uk/trogsoft/laced_frames.htm
<mouseomatic> no i'm not. btw - http://www.ann.lu
<mouseomatic> hahaha
<Phil> Thanks troggy I was looking for ASCI art!
<Phil> Shit!
* Phil slaps mouseomatic in the face with Duane Dibbley
* Phil slaps Troggy on the head with a copy of 'What Carcus?' magazine
<mouseomatic> oww!
<Troggy> :)
<Meash> :)
<mouseomatic> hmm.
* Troggy slaps Phil around a bit with a large trout
<Troggy> Hey, can you tell if I do this Phil...
<Phil> Boring
* Phil slaps Troggy in the face with a chicken
* mouseomatic picks up a conveniently placed fire hydrant and throws it in phil's direction
<Phil> Better
<mouseomatic> hello X2!
<Phil> I didn't realise today was "pick on Amiga user" day
* Troggy slaps Phil in the face with the decaying carcas of a dead tyrannosaurus rex from 10 million years ago. Upon impact it shatters into a million pieces covering Phil with prehistoric dust and suffocating him instantly
<Troggy> :)
<Phil> Getting flash now
<Troggy> yep
<mouseomatic> sheesh.. get a vacuum cleaner in here now!
<Troggy> :)
<Troggy> Incidentally, http://web.ukonline.co.uk/woa3/ and http://web.ukonline.co.uk/woaspecial/ are the new URL's of the HTML WOA versions
<mouseomatic> oh we are cruel
<Phil> Been there
<Troggy> Free-Online is sort of bust :)
<mouseomatic> I've got unlimited space at bt!
<Phil> And I have with Ukonline
<Troggy> do you get Unlimited space at UKonline?!
<mouseomatic> ahh, but mines better unlimited space
<Troggy> :)
<Phil> Mines BIGGER
<Troggy> hahah :)
<Troggy> Mine's Free-er
<mouseomatic> mines more spangly
<Troggy> Infact, Mine's Free :)
<Troggy> No phone bill either :)
<Phil> Mine is open 24 hrs
<Phil> Troggy wins!
<mouseomatic> pourquoi no phone bill?
<Troggy> Localtel and Screaming.net - Left behind those extortionate BT prices now :)
<mouseomatic> 0800 at weekends...
<Troggy> and off peak
<Troggy> for me :)
<Troggy> 6PM-8AM
<Meash> but
<Phil> And they support the Amiga
<Phil> NOT!
<Troggy> you can sign up using an Amiga I think
<Troggy> just have to change phone companies
<mouseomatic> hmmm.
<Phil> Only if you can run IE5
<Troggy> Is it?
<Phil> Think so
<Meash> the url is ...
<Troggy> I don't see why
<Meash> signup.screaming.net
<Troggy> Get someone with a PC to register an account for you, and you just connect :)
<Phil> I've got a couple of PC owning pals who owe me a favour
<mouseomatic> what, like me, here, now.
<Troggy> I'll do it if you want, but you need to change phone company first :)
<mouseomatic> on a peecee
<mouseomatic> with ie5
<Phil> Anyone tried Pegasus for their mail?
<mouseomatic> (but I don't _like_ it)
<Troggy> nope
<Troggy> :)
<Phil> It's shit hot
<Phil> much better than OE
<Phil> and free
<Troggy> Oh, and you can use the UKOnline webspace without being connected to UKOnline, and I can still get my Freeserve email without being connected to Freeserve! The ideal solution!
<Troggy> Is that a PC mail proggy, Pegasus?
<mouseomatic> that's amaaaaaazing!
<Meash> HOW ?
<Phil> I can do that with Abelgratis too
<Phil> but I have to pay for calls ;-(
<Troggy> Yeah, It's just UKOnline not preventing people from doing it :) Silly people :)
<mouseomatic> I think you can do it with most isps
<mouseomatic> for a fee ;-) (think about it)
<Phil> You can pick up mail but not send
<Phil> Pegasus is for PC
<Troggy> Freeserve don't usually let you get email from other ISPs and they definately don't let you in to the webspace without being connected to them. I can send mail too, btw
<mouseomatic> hokay. Q. how many mice does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
<Troggy> erm... 9? :)
<Phil> ?
<mouseomatic> A. Two, but how did the get there in the first place?
<mouseomatic> hohoh
<Troggy> hehe :)
<Phil> How did what get where?
<mouseomatic> they.
<mouseomatic> sorry
<mouseomatic> get it? screw? as in fu*k?
<mouseomatic> hahahahaha
<Troggy> HAHahah :)
<Troggy> Just got that :)
<Phil> :-\
<Meash> oh :)
<mouseomatic> oh, well fine then.
<Meash> why the *
<Phil> He's a gentleman
<Troggy> Yeah, and if possible, I'd like this to go into WOA4 :)
<mouseomatic> yea. that's right. a gentleman.
<Phil> What in WOA4
<Troggy> this chat transcript
<Troggy> people seemed to like the ones in WOA2
<Troggy> So I thought I'd do some more
<Troggy> Of course, me doing them on my own would be very boring, so that's why you're all here :)
<Phil> Phil goes suddenly silent and slopes out the back door.
<Troggy> :) Don't worry. Just be yourself :)
<Meash> like the ones with fish ?
<Troggy> nooooooooooooo
<Meash> why ?
<Troggy> too... erm... insane
<Troggy> and very hard to follow when you're reading it as a tewxt file
<Meash> :))))
<Troggy> I think
<Troggy> Damn
<Troggy> I think I need to put this hard drive in my A600 soon. It's just sitting in my room not doing anything at the moment. It needs a hard disk.
<mouseomatic> you could send it to me
<Phil> You could bin it
<mouseomatic> i need an extra one.
<mouseomatic> my workbench partition is only 10megs, and due to lack of that wonderful foresight thing, it's now almost full.
<mouseomatic> hey, do you guys get paid for this?
<Phil> Mouse. move your FONTS
<Phil> I dunnoo!
<Troggy> Stop!
<Troggy> One subject at a time. This will confuse the readers :)
<mouseomatic> eh?
<Troggy> Not that I care, but I don't want any complaints, y'see :)
<Phil> mouse. Try moving your FONTS: dir to another partition
<mouseomatic> phil: how, pray tell?
<mouseomatic> won't that just screw up my really fragile setup?
<Phil> mouse. Change the assign in your S-up to point to where you've moved then to.
<mouseomatic> what? that's it?
<Phil> thats it
<mouseomatic> my god!
<mouseomatic> an easy task by half!
<Troggy> yep. I've done it for Libs, Devs, C, Fonts and L
<mouseomatic> ;-)
<Phil> I did it before I got a new HD
<Phil> and I'm thick!
<Troggy> My System partition is 20MB and filled with crap, so I moved all my system assigns
<mouseomatic> my HD's supposed to be 500megs, but they sent me a 420 one.
<mouseomatic> they being Siren Software
<Phil> My System is 100Meg
<Phil> Mines bigger than yours :-)
<Troggy> hehe
<Troggy> My Sys: is 20MB and my Work: is the other 580 :)
<mouseomatic> I need a gig or so.
<Phil> Well gents, as nice as it is to talk to you, I really have to go and watch the Arse beating my team again. Such is my devotion.
<Phil> TAlk to you soon.
<Troggy> And work contains 4 main directories, TDS, WOA, Games and Utils each of which has an MWB Disk icon, but is really a drawer and is left out on my Workbench so it looks like a drive, and it's assigned like a drive too :)
<Troggy> yeah, seeya Phil :)
<Meash> bye
<Phil> Bye
*** Phil has quit IRC (So long and thanks for all the fish)
<Troggy> And then there were 3 - As everyone seems to say
<Troggy> Well, Frank and Phil do, but they're not here
<mouseomatic> well, 4 if you count X2
<Meash> :)
<Troggy> well, that's a bot :) forget him. He won't even AOP me :(
<mouseomatic> bye
<Meash> bye
<Troggy> Nooo... you're not going too are you?
<mouseomatic> got to go.
*** mouseomatic has quit IRC (Leaving)
<Troggy> oh well. And then there were two... :)
<Meash> :)
<Meash> 25 mins
<Troggy> what, till disconnection?
<Meash> fish back in 5 days !!
<Meash> yes
<Troggy> I have 1:05 till disconnection
<Meash> in 5 days thing
<Meash> go back to mormal
<Troggy> Ok, well time to go :)
<Meash> wait
<Meash> can i put some beta bsp in woa4 ?
<Troggy> some what?
<Meash> bsp
<Troggy> none the wiser...
<Meash> quake levels
<Troggy> ah
<Troggy> Suppose so
<Troggy> Well, yes :)
<Meash> bye :)
<Troggy> seeya
<Meash> bye
<Troggy> So, how did you like this one readers? Feel free to join in any of our chats, on Sundays at digitald.uk.afternet.org on the #trogsoft channel - 10PM Onwards..